Romeo and Juliet you guys! Lets continue!
Wednesday, April 22, 2020
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The toxic masculinity aspect of men feeling like they have to prove themselves through violence that Romeo is something is in so many stories. My favorite example is from Back to the Future when every time Biff calls Marty a chicken, Marty just has to go back and does something stupid and this is a running gag through all the movies I think.
ReplyDelete-Deborah Majowka
That is a very good example! (Also Doc in Back to the Future has a very Friar Laurence quality doesn’t he — helping young people in love and also causing a lot of trouble and messing with science!)
DeleteWhat personal favors? Also it wasn’t his fault that the letter didnt get to romeo — he tried to get it to him but it was just bad luck it didn’t get there. And the speed that he married them doesn’t seems so bad! He did it for a good reason to heal the rift between the two families!
ReplyDeleteThat is fair! He is pretty much just like a priest! But I don’t know what was legal and not legal back then — i think he may not have done anything illegal tho.
ReplyDeleteI was actually going to make a comment on the sitaution with Romeo and Tybalt but you took the words right from my mouth. Romeo refraining from fighting was a beautiful scene. I think it takes maturity for him take that stand.
ReplyDeleteAlso I think Friar Lawrence did what he could. There were some faulty steps which could have been avoided. This is why you discuss plans in details.
-Jnette Leopold
Part of what we like about the play is the hurry tho — this is tricky! What we want in real life is not always what we want from students.
DeleteFriar Lawrence is little evil in my head but i like him! i wish i could write about him honestly but have nothing in mind to compare him with. But Romeo is playing smart with Juliet cousin but i going to try my best to watch the movie in the course of this week.
ReplyDeleteFrair Lawrence could be compared with any older person who tries to help younger people and is maybe not so good at it! Dumbledore and Professor X both try to help young people and get some of them killed in the process.
DeleteMy comment about Friar Lawrence is that I agree with the casting and portrayal in the Baz Luhrmann movie; Pete Postlewhaite plays him like he's running an alternative medicine practice. Romeo seems to have a prior association with him as they obviously have a relationship. What I would like to point out is that in the short scene of Act II Scene III, Rosaline's name is mentioned 6 times; 4 by Lawrence and 2 by Romeo. It seems Lawrence knew all about Rosaline and maybe had advised Romeo in matters of the heart before Juliet. Just a thought?
ReplyDeleteMatthew Morelli
You are totally correct — that is a great observation! The alternative medicine practice is based on what he says in the actual play and is important because it sets up his knowledge of drugs for the sleeping potion he offers (otherwise his skill with drugs comes out of nowhere). He seems to be close with romeo — romeo’s dad seems severe and very interested in the feud and I imagine that Romeo sought out a new subsititute dad in Friar Lawrence, who he called his “ghostly father” (in other words spiritual advisor)
DeleteI like the re-evaluation of what constitutes victory in Romeo and Juliet’s deaths. It reminded me of a scene from House of Cards, where an American gay rights activist committed suicide in a russian jail cell because of the premise that Petrov(russian president) would only give him asylum if he admitted he was wrong for his lifestyle choice(being gay was punishable by death in this scene). The Flotus-Claire Underwood admired his bravery and commitment in his role. He found a cause he cared for, so deeply, he was willing to die for it. I think there’s much bravery involved in suicide, much more so than living, because you can’t undo death. Romeo and Juliet loved each other so fiercely that they were willing to let go of their lives in Verona to start over in Mantua. One does not need to necessarily agree with an act in order to objectively acknowledge the virtue in it. I like that Shakespeare allows the audience to see the fluidity of good and bad in these scenes, that would otherwise be much more difficult to openly discuss irl scenarios.
ReplyDeleteAgreed! Part of the issue is that given what we know about suicide you have to be careful when talking about it — you don’t want to glorify it in any way, especially if your audience is younger. But then there is the famous play which kind of DOES glorify it so it seems crazy not to acknowledge that there is something people find facinating. Anyway the point is HEY ALL MY STUDENTS DO NOT KILL YOURSELVES AND IF YOU ARE THINKING OF KILLING YOURSELF THERE ARE HOTLINES AND WEBSITES THAT CAN HELP KEEP YOU ALIVE and also SHAKESPEARE IS A VERY GOOD POET AND WE CAN ENJOY THINGS IN FICTION WE WOULD NOT ENJOY IN REAL LIFE
DeleteI’m not a fan of Friar Lawrence. I blame their death on Lawrence. Also, what responsible adult allow two kids to runaway from home and secretly get married? I’m just saying.
ReplyDeleteHe was trying to stop gang violence on the street which had been going on since forever! He had a reason!
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